Question: Tell us about your life before ThroughConversation?
Beverly: On the surface my life looked very good, I had success in a whole bunch of ways. But inside I was torn, I was in a lot of pain, I was very anxious, I was very aggressive. I wasn’t treating the people in my life like I love them even though I love them a lot, but I couldn’t seem to take what I felt for them and put it into action. So, my heart and my actions were different and I couldn’t figure out why I was so angry and so anxious. So, I came to ThroughConversation after thirty years of doing it on my own with some therapies and a lot of books. I came to ThroughConversation looking for something that was different, something that would break through the limiting belief that I had and to get me back on track.
Question: Why did you choose ThroughConversation?
Beverly: Why did I choose ThroughConversation. Well, I had come to the conclusion that I couldn’t do it by myself. That reading books after book, after book, going to therapy, certain kind of traditional therapies, wasn’t going to work, and searching on the Internet found ThroughConversation. I didn’t reach out immediately but a couple of months later it showed up for me, and I just somehow knew intuitively that what was going to be offered here was going to be different than what I’d done before. And I don’t know why I thought that. It’s not like I read a line on the computer, but something said to me ‘you better give these people a call, keep an open mind, give these people a call and see.’ I was ready to give up my thinking and to open my mind to something different. I think the two just came together, ThroughConversation and I came at the right time, the right place.
Question: Did ThroughConversation give you what you desired?
Beverly: Absolutely. I’m sitting here and I go, it gave me what I desired, it gave me more than I desired. It was fabulous, and I’m not a lady who would normally use those kind of terms, but I’ve got to give it the right term – it was fabulous. It transformed me, if you ask people around me ‘is Bev different?’ They can see the difference, I see the difference, I feel it, and I’m not anxious and whatever, but outside of me I look different. Jean-Paul even said, ‘your face looks different Bev,’ because it does, you know I used to have this tight, kind of angry look, and I look in the mirror now and I feel like ten years younger. So it’s delivered my dream and more… and more.
Question: What were you able to achieve with Jean-Paul’s help?
Beverly: I’ll start with something that’s really important to me, which was my relationship with my husband. So I’ve been married forty years, we love each other but we just couldn’t get on the same wavelength and you know I was able now to sit down, I’m able now to sit down with my husband and have conversations about difficult situations we may not agree about and we can we can come to a conclusion and we’re both happy with that conclusion. At work I’ve transformed my relationship with my staff, they always liked me but they were afraid of me and now they think I’m just the best. They just think ‘wow Bev is a happy person and she’s a lot nicer to work for,’ so it’s really transformed my relationship with my staff even the people that I report to. They always admired me and respected me but I think they like me now. I’ve been able to transform that relationship at work. Health wise I feel so much better, I sleep better, I eat better, I can exercise now when I’m never been able to exercise before. You know I I’m consistent in that, you know in the past I would do things and two weeks later I’d stop. I don’t and I don’t think about it so I’ve transformed my life in a lot of ways, I don’t read books every moment of the day. I don’t have a health self-help book in my bag which I’m underlining etc. for hours. I’ve freed my time up so my relationship with my grandkids, they love me but now they like me I think and we’re fun and I’m way more energetic. So relationships, health, you know just my passion for life is just way better and my confidence, my feeling of ‘I can handle this,’ something is going to come up, yeah it’s not, life has got stuff coming up. I can take something that comes to me now and just confidently say ‘okay what is that I need to do here,’ and I can take that action, before I might want to take action I couldn’t take action, now I can take action.
Question: How quickly did you notice the positive changes?
Beverly: Quickly, it was immediate, it was phenomenally quick and it was so it was so profound of a change that I felt right away. It wasn’t like ‘hey I wonder if I’m changing,’ I walked and went ‘I have just changed,’ I don’t know how or why but right from the first session I was different.
Question: How was your experience with Jean-Paul?
Beverly: I love the Jean-Paul, I love working with him. Jean-Paul is very funny, he’s very kind, he’s very committed and he’s very intuitive. So he made it safe for me to look at the things that I wanted to look at and you know was having a problem doing that but he just knew exactly what he needed to say at that moment in time to help me get clarity. It’s like kind of amazing, it’s like how he knew me so well really quickly.
Question: What impressed you the most about this work?
Beverly: When impressed me most about this work was how transformative it has been. It’s a cellular level almost. I’m a different woman than I was four months ago and how much fun it was and how not painful it was. It just was the best experience I’ve ever had in my life, the most just kind of support of experience I’ve ever had with another person I had with Jean Paul.
Question: How is ThroughConversation different from other things you’ve done?
Beverly: I spent a lot of time at therapy and counseling telling my story. I go on and on and detailed and emotions, it’s all about the other. You know the kind of like ‘what was me and then I was sad and then I was happy,’ it just went on forever and with Jean-Paul it’s like yeah you can get a little bit of the story but the story is just a story. Let’s get to the root of what’s causing that story and let’s deal at the root, not in the stories and the drama because the stories and drama for me actually is kind of entertaining and you don’t realize you’re kind of addicted to the ‘oh well with me.’ So Jean-Paul was very kind but you learn quickly you’re not going to waste your time with him telling a story, he’s not going to let you waste your time talking about stories that you had. He wanted to get kind of really real and really get into the results right away, that’s different. The therapy was a lot of stories, it could have filled books.
Question: How would you describe your return on investment for this program?
Beverly: I’m happier, I’m healthier, my relationships are better, I’m focused, I have new energy and passion, I’m not afraid the way I was, I’m not anxious anymore. My relationship with my daughter my grandkids have improved immensely. It’s the best return on investment I ever made in my life.
Question: What would you say to someone who is considering this program?
Beverly: All I can say is what I got from it was, did it have value? Yes it had immense value to me and it changed my life. So you have to make the decision obviously the commitment but I got everything I thought I could get and a lot more. I applied myself but Jean-Paul he gave me what he said he was going to give me and so don’t be afraid, that’s what I would say don’t be afraid. Really consider taking the course, you’ve got to make the decision to take the course.
Question: Is there anything else you would like to add?
Beverly: I think the bottom line is I would say and in my life is for thirty years, I’ve been trying to get someplace and I worked hard at it and I couldn’t get there and Jean-Paul and the program made the difference to me getting a dream back, being happy. I’m eternally grateful Jean-Paul and I say he’s a pretty amazing guy, I think if him from the bottom of my heart.